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Part II: Light tanks

Author: Karika

In this part, we’ll take a look at how could the Hungarian Turán medium tanks be implemented into WoT. Everything is the same as in the previous article: I will not predict game parameters (health points or alpha damage) and the balance parameters (radiorange, RoF, etc.) would not necessarely be implemented as I listed them below.

Please note that these are only the historical characteristics, so presumably (!) these would be only the stock or intermediate configurations of the in-game tanks, not the final ones.

Turán – Tier IV

Possible vehicle description

In 1940 the Hungarian Ministry of Defence decided to buy the licence of the yet unfinished design of the Czechoslovak T-21 medium tank, to solve the problem of the missing medium tank class in Hungarian service as soon as possible. However, because the prototype needed plenty of modifications and suffered from many breakdowns during its development, the first 40M. Turán I medium tanks only arrived to the troops in the Summer of 1942. Soon after that, the need for a higher caliber gun arose, so between 1942-1943, the Turán was further developed to 41M. Turán II and recieved a short 75mm cannon in a modified turret. Approximately 459-462 Turán I and Turán II were manufactured during the war.

 

History:
You can read about the history of the Turán I and Turán II here: http://ftr.wot-news.com/2013/11/25/hung … velopment/ and here: http://ftr.wot-news.com/2014/05/31/hung … -turan-ii/

Characteristics:

Crew: 5, Commander, Gunner, Driver, Radioman, Loader

Gun: 40mm 42 M. L/45
Ammo types: AP, HE
Ammo capacity: ?
Historical ROF: 15-16 shots/min
Penetration with AP: approx. 64mm
Gun depression, elevation: ?

Gun: 40mm 41 M. L/51
Ammo types: AP, HE
Ammo capacity: 101
Historical ROF: 12 shots/min
Penetration with AP: approx. 72mm
Gun depression, elevation: -10°, +30°

Gun: 75mm 41 M. L/25
Ammo types: AP, HE
Ammo capacity: 52
Historical ROF: 12 shots/min
Penetration with AP: ? (low, around 30-40mm)
Gun depression, elevation: -10°, +30°

Armor: 50/25/25
Side-skirts: 8mm

Stock turret: Turán I
Turret armor: 50/25/25
Commander cupola front armor: 25
Side-skirts: 8mm

Elite turret: Turán II
Turret armor: 50/25/25
Side-skirts: 8mm

Weight:
– Turán I: 18 t (with side-skirts: 18,5 t)
– Turán II: 19,2 t (with side-skirts: 19,8 t)
Engines:
– Škoda V-8, petrol, 240 hp
– WM V-8H, petrol, 260 hp
Power-to-weight ratio: 13,1-14,4 hp/t
Maximum speed: 43-47 km/h

Radios:
– R/5a
– R/4-T
– R/4a

Notes and predictable in-game performance:
Could be researched from the Š-IIc or T-21 medium tank of the Czechoslovak tech tree. Could recieve more modules from the T-21, if needed.

The only differences between the Turán I and II were their turret and armament, plus the shape of the driver’s hatch door. Everything else, such as the armor, radio, engine, etc. were the same. Even though the Turán II was considered a heavy tank in the Hungarian tank classification terminology, in WoT it would be still a medium tank.

Both the Turán I and the Turán II recieved side-skirts during the war, so these additional side armor plates could be added to the in-game tanks too, maybe as alternative hull options.

Both vehicles could participate in the upcoming Historical Battle mode.

Pros:
– Excellent gun depression
– Optional side-skirts
– Acceptable top speed

Cons:
– Choice between a 40mm gun or a short 75mm. Both gun are relatively weak/mediocre for that tier.
– Average and unsloped armor
– Commander cupola is relatively big and poorly armored on the Turán I
– Average mobility and sluggish acceleration (with the historical engine)

43M. Turán III – Tier V

Possible vehicle description
Planned upgrade to put a long 75mm gun on the Turán medium tank. The mass-production never started, because of the late war limited resources and slow development of the desired gun. Only one complete prototype was made.

History:
You can read about the history of the Turán III here: http://ftr.wot-news.com/2014/06/04/hung … turan-iii/

Characteristics:

Crew: 5, Commander, Gunner, Driver, Radioman, Loader

Gun: 75mm 43 M. L/43
Ammo types: AP, APCR, HEAT and HE
Ammo capacity: 32
Historical ROF: 12 shots/min
Penetration with AP: 113mm
Penetration with HEAT in 60°: 90mm
Gun depression, elevation: -10° +30°

Armor: 75/35/35
Side-skirts: 8mm

Turret: Turán III serial (with side-skirts)
Turret armor: 75/35/55
Commander cupola front armor: 60
Side-skirts: 8mm

Weight: 21 t (with side-skirts: 23,3 t)
Engine: WM V-8H, petrol, 260 hp
Power-to-weight ratio: 12,4 hp/t (11,2 hp/t)
Maximum speed: 39 km/h (37 km/h)

Radios:
– R/5a
– R/4-T

Notes and predictable in-game performance:
The historical gun have similar attributes as the 7,5cm KwK 40 L/48 cannon, the in-game top armament of the Pz. IV Ausf. H, tier 5 German medium tank.

With the historical engine, the mobility would be probably the main weakness of this medium tank. Presumably, it will have similar acceleration and mobility as the in-game B1, tier 4 French heavy tank with it.

The commander cupola on the top of the Turán III turret was just huge. It will be a disadvantage, a major weakspot in the game.

Same case as on the Turán II, because even though the Turán III was considered a heavy tank in the Hungarian tank classification terminology, it would be still a medium tank in WoT.

The side-skirts were mounted in the factory, they were the part of the standard equipment.

Pros:
– Above average turret armor
– Above average hull armor for a medium tank
– Decent gun
– Excellent gun depression
– Side-skirts

Cons:
– Huge commander cupola, “tumor”
– Unsloped armor
– Poor mobility and sluggish acceleration (with the historical engine)
– Low historical ammo capacity (probably will be buffed in the game)

Turán III “prototype” – Tier V premium

Possible vehicle description
Between September 1943 and February 1944, before the first complete Turán III was finished, the 2H-012 licence plate Turán II chassis was used as a testbed for the Turán III turret development.

History:
You can read about the history of the Turán III here: http://ftr.wot-news.com/2014/06/04/hung … turan-iii/

Characteristics:

Crew: 5, Commander, Gunner, Driver, Radioman, Loader

Gun: 75mm 43 M. L/43 tank-gun
Ammo types: AP, APCR, HEAT and HE
Ammo capacity: 32
Historical ROF: 12 shots/min
Penetration with AP: 113mm
Penetration with HEAT in 60°: 90mm
Gun depression, elevation: -10° +30°

Armor: 50/25/25
No side-skirts

Turret: Turán III prototype
Turret armor: 75/35/55
Commander cupola front armor: 60
No side-skirts

Weight: ? (cca. 19,5 t)
Engine: WM V-8H, petrol, 260 hp
Power-to-weight ratio: ? (cca. 13,3 hp/t)
Maximum speed: ? (cca. 45 km/h)

Radios:
– R/5a
– R/4-T

Notes and predictable in-game performance:

Its in-game name is problematic. The only finished 43M. Turán III was practically the prototype, and this vehicle was nothing but a Turán II test bed for the Turán III turret, a stage of the development, not the proper „Turán III prototype”. But I could not figure out any better name yet.

It’s a good choice for premium role, as only one was ever built, it has only one historical option for each module, and the overall vehicle is in between the stock and elite configuration of the same tier researchable medium tank – slightly better mobility, in exchange for worse hull armor.

The commander cupola on the top of the Turán III turret was just huge. It will be a disadvantage, a major weakspot in the game.

Very similar to the regular Turán III: same gun, same engine, a little bit simplified turret but on the hull of Turán II, the Hungarian tier 4 medium tank. This tank would not get side-skirts.

Above: The small difference between the turret of the early, wooden turret and the later, would have been serial turret.

Pros:
– Excellent for crew training, because both the Turáns and the Tas have the same crew setup.
– Above average turret front armor
– Decent gun
– Excellent gun depression

Cons:
– Huge commander cupola, “tumor”
– Bad mobility
– Sluggish acceleration for a medium tank
– Weak, unsloped hull armor
– Low historical ammo capacity (probably will be buffed in the game)

The Tas medium tank will be described in the next part.

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